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Why vinyl purists arent w*nkers... - Page 2

Why vinyl purists arent w*nkers... - Page 2

149 surviving posts · 10 Jul 2007 – 2 Aug 2007 · archived copy

Old 1 Aug 2007, 11:37am#121
Xpose
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has anyone else noticed that this thread has probably proved more than disproved the wanker status of vinyl purists?

"Not deaf like what? but Def like WHUT!" Brother Ali

Old 1 Aug 2007, 11:39am#122
Brick
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come on dess-us, you're saying i have a simple mind because I talk about others... so what was it, my comment on SA not being founded by convicts or mentioning dj/acts that ive seen use CD...?

Old 1 Aug 2007, 11:45am#123
dess-us
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only a simple mind would have to ask that kind of question. most people could work it out for themselves

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Old 1 Aug 2007, 11:48am#124
shr3dder
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I love this thread.

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Old 1 Aug 2007, 11:50am#125
Xpose
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dess-us
only a simple mind would have to ask that kind of question. most people could work it out for themselves

LOL :lol:

werd you are far from a wanker

LOL :lol:

I love this thread also. In fact i would marry it.
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Old 1 Aug 2007, 11:57am#126
Brick
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dess-us
only a simple mind would have to ask that kind of question. most people could work it out for themselves
seemed like a pretty legitimate question to me, they were the only two comments you could've been referring to and I hardly think a one line comment about SA history in response to an insult is an indicator of a simple mind.
Old 1 Aug 2007, 11:59am#127
shr3dder
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shows how little you know really brick.

LOL :lol:

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Old 1 Aug 2007, 12:00pm#128
Xpose
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simple minds?

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Old 1 Aug 2007, 12:15pm#129
Brick
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if I may drag the topic away from simple minds for a second... I think that numark cdj in the adove pic is absolutley ridiculous... the fact that they had to make one basically identical to a turntable shows the unwillingness of djs to accept and adapt to new technology... if you need a turntable like that to play cds why not just stick to vinyl.

Old 1 Aug 2007, 12:35pm#130
BuzsteR
to emo to be emo.

i still want my gramophone to be heard in the clubs, im thinking the local rsl.

fuck signatures.

Old 1 Aug 2007, 12:45pm#131
redsh101
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dess-us

any twit can go up and play good songs

i don't think so; selecting is THE most important skill a DJ can have
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Old 1 Aug 2007, 12:52pm#132
Brendonism
Who's in my mouth?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xpose
has anyone else noticed that this thread has probably proved more than disproved the wanker status of vinyl purists?

"Why some vinyl purists most certainly are wankers..."
Old 1 Aug 2007, 1:03pm#133
Random_Kiwi
So far out it's in
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xpose
I'm only racist against kiwis, that's more a patriotic thing than a hick thing.

You do realise NZ and Aus have the same decendents, right? Essentially we are the same race unless you're from Italian, Greek etc decent. Rainman :rainman:

New Zealander isn't a race...it's a nationality, twat features...

All this is totally beside the point anyways, you're just a childish dog refusing to let go of a bone...

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Old 1 Aug 2007, 1:09pm#134
Random_Kiwi
So far out it's in
Quote:
Originally Posted by dess-us
the debate is not that the music played by a cdj or vinyl dj is better or worse, its that the skill involved in mixing with vinyl is in a purists eyes, more technical and when a vinyl dj sees someone mixing cd's, a lack of dissatisfaction and disrespect is felt as it is easier.

All your other guff...we were ust pissing about. Sheesh, get a grip.

RE: the above...there is just as much technical skill involved in creating a good DJ set on CDJs as there is turntables. CDJs don't auto-beat match you know? You still have to do that manually...which is about 10-15% of what makes up a good set in my mind...the rest of the skill is in programming and reading/leading the crowd. Whether you're playing live or of vinyl or laptop or CDs, this is still the hardest part of DJing and the format the music is in is totally irrelivant to this.

Would you rather hear an amazingly programmed set of CDJs or a piss-poor programmed one on vinyl (lets assume the mixing/beat matching was flawless)?

I know which I'd choose. Seems you've missed the point of this debate...format don't mean shit...just coz you only play vinyl doesn't make you a great set constructionist...and if you do only play vinyl, you're actually just limiting the possibilties of where you can take a set...

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Old 1 Aug 2007, 1:12pm#135
Xpose
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Random_Kiwi
You do realise NZ and Aus have the same decendents, right? Essentially we are the same race unless you're from Italian, Greek etc decent. Rainman :rainman:

New Zealander isn't a race...it's a nationality, twat features...

All this is totally beside the point anyways, you're just a childish dog refusing to let go of a bone...

hahahhahahhahahah

oh man - a dog with twat like features, i totally want one of those.
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Old 1 Aug 2007, 1:15pm#136
Random_Kiwi
So far out it's in
Quote:
Originally Posted by dess-us
are those the turntables that also second as a cdj? they aint that flash...the only good ones i have come across cost a mint and are technics and really new. they have a spinning platter and were actually the closest to vinyl i have found..still tho, they have shite sound...i mean give me a cdj that i dont have to slam the mid and low's up on???? flat muffled sound - bla. what did all the cdjs decide to put a muffler on?




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Sweet mother of God you have to be kidding?!?! Those are the worst CDJs on the market, spinning platter or not!
And "feels like vinyl"? Yeah fucking right! The platter on that is so shit it's not funny. The torque/motor is so piss poor weak it's laughable...it feels NOTHING at all like a turntable unless you're talking a $150 belt drive piece of shit turnie.

After taking so long to get into the CDJ market, Technics missed the mark by a country mile with that jobbie.

The Numark one shits all over it for a CDJ "which feels like a turntable"...it's motor is actually stronger than a technics 1200 turnable.

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Old 1 Aug 2007, 1:27pm#137
Body Language
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OK so Marshall Jefferson played off CDs.

I guess that meant he could play all those rare things that he'd never dare bring on vinyl cos they might get lost or stolen.

And with so much music to choose from he could tailor his set much more closely to what the crowd were digging. That's what happened right?

It's not like he can say: "Oh I thought the crowd would be really up for some mid 90s handbag so that's all I brought with me"

Old 1 Aug 2007, 1:49pm#138
Body Language
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nic Borrelli
question.... are those saying no to cdj's, they lose interest in a dj when he uses a lappy / cdjs etc techno fans?


I wouldn't call myself a techno fan, no. I really like some of the new stuff by Redshape, Shed and Add Noise. But nothing glitchy or banging.
Old 1 Aug 2007, 5:55pm#139
caboose-moose
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dess-us

the average joe may not give a hoot, and yes i will happily dance to a good song played by a cdj, but whether or not i think they are a good dj in that respect is the question mostly at hand

Thats what I mean. But for some reason apparently that means I should hate Luciano for using a laptop... even though I was talking about cdjs? rite............. Dess-us is on the ball, some of you guys missing the point. And whats all this "HATER" crap I dont hate anyone Im all about the luvvvv baby... you said hater, not me. Maybe im the one stirring and YOUR the one taking it too seriously? Rainman :rainman: bak at ya Rasberry :haha:

Would you want to see q-bert on cds? Of course not...
Old 1 Aug 2007, 5:57pm#140
caboose-moose
Registered User

Oh sorry for yet another double post but this thread only proves vinyl purists are wankers in the eyes of cd purists. And in a vinyl purist eyes its probably vice versa... like i said in my post that started the thread... could saved ya all a lot of time n whinging. I never said it was fact just my opinion. Yet again dess-us is rite, ya not reading posts properly...

Old 1 Aug 2007, 7:23pm#141
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Quote:
Originally Posted by caboose-moose
Thats what I mean. But for some reason apparently that means I should hate Luciano for using a laptop... even though I was talking about cdjs? rite............. Dess-us is on the ball, some of you guys missing the point. And whats all this "HATER" crap I dont hate anyone Im all about the luvvvv baby... you said hater, not me. Maybe im the one stirring and YOUR the one taking it too seriously? Rainman :rainman: bak at ya Rasberry :haha:

Would you want to see q-bert on cds? Of course not...

hahahhahaha dude HATER = fuck around hence the caps

i wouldn't care to be honest if he could still cut and scratch to his utmost ability then yep no dramas

also that's "you're" not "your"
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Old 1 Aug 2007, 10:50pm#142
Mr S
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Wow. I have never seen so many posts in the Adelaide forums in one day (and especially in one thread) LOL :lol:

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Old 1 Aug 2007, 11:45pm#143
Spectrum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dess-us
still tho, they have shite sound...i mean give me a cdj that i dont have to slam the mid and low's up on???? flat muffled sound - bla. what did all the cdjs decide to put a muffler on?

Are you serious? LOL :lol:

Did it ever occur to you that it only sounds muffled (ie. no highs) simply cause YOU slammed the the mids and lows up on it?

I think you need to hear a CDJ again, this time and with the EQ set to flat, and preferably playing something other than a shoddy-encoded mp3.
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Old 1 Aug 2007, 11:49pm#144
Spectrum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr S
Wow. I have never seen so many posts in the Adelaide forums in one day (and especially in one thread) LOL :lol:


I think it's only down to Adelaide's aphabetical superiority that's placed this thread top of the hit list. Wink ;)
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Old 2 Aug 2007, 12:41am#145
Dj Hempenhymer
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hell yeah im a vinyl purist, probably spent about $2000 on vinyl in the past 4-6 months but whos counting and who cares.

I cant believe all the piss poor articles and peoples comments that arise that suggest that the "CDJ/digital Revolution" is here to annihilate all Conventional forms of playing music to an audience and we all should take our turntables, vinyl and burn it all in a pile.

I love the feel of vinyl, i love the look of vinyl, i love having the crates that are loaded up to the top with it, i love the glossy finish of the black disk, i love the sound they produce.

Its all a matter of preference its what i love and im sticking with it.

Id love to know what everyone argued about 18 years ago when digital wasn't around. I mean everyone had turntables back then... no wars right??

Ellis

Old 2 Aug 2007, 6:54am#146
Spectrum
What?! No Crossfader!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dj Hempenhymer
Id love to know what everyone argued about 18 years ago when digital wasn't around. I mean everyone had turntables back then... no wars right??

Hate to be pedantic, we had a digital CD player in the house from about 21 years ago...

...and there's always the cassette tape DJ. Rock :rock:

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Old 2 Aug 2007, 9:18am#147
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Old 2 Aug 2007, 10:20am#148
Brick
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Quote:
Originally Posted by caboose-moose
Oh sorry for yet another double post but this thread only proves vinyl purists are wankers in the eyes of cd purists. And in a vinyl purist eyes its probably vice versa... like i said in my post that started the thread... could saved ya all a lot of time n whinging. I never said it was fact just my opinion. Yet again dess-us is rite, ya not reading posts properly...

yeah but you did make comments about losing respect for djs you like that use cds... i cant see how if a dj has used vinyl for years, hence demonstrating that he has some sort of talent, and then switches to cd because something about it appeals to him, how that should affect your thinking. You gave qbert as an example, lets say he did switch to cd, now if someone like him with his immense talent, saw nothing wrong with it then why should anyone else?

dess-us' main argument that using cdjs was really only easier because of the pitch lock, now to me that's a pretty weak argument for writing off a medium. What if technics started putting them on their vinyl turntables (if they havent already)?
Old 2 Aug 2007, 10:44am#149
Body Language
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Random_Kiwi

Move with the times, or get your ass left behind.



Oh well I certainly don't want to be left behind. I better do what all the trendy boys are doing and get me some Serato. Maybe I should get some Tshirts that say CUBA or MEXICO too?