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Is Progresive Dead - Flame On

Is Progresive Dead - Flame On

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Old 18 Jun 2004, 3:39pm#1
john doe
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Is Progresive Dead - Flame On
http://www.inthemix.com.au/p/np/viewnews.php?id=15867

according to progressive "god" sasha

"I’m now actively distancing myself from that progressive sound that was previously attached to me, because it really doesn’t hold much interest for me anymore,"

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Old 18 Jun 2004, 4:01pm#2
BuzsteR
Chillster.

pfft, digweed is where tis at !

progressive isnt dead, and people have been saying it will be dieing soon and yet it hasnt been.

its just not as big as other cities like syd and melb. we just dont have to population to get the big name acts in as them "e.g. james zabiela, hernan cattaneo, dave seaman" but we do get others here like chris fortier and gill norris (tongue)

prog isnt dead, infact i think it is growing in the world, but its sound is changing alot like jz puts alot of techno, breaks into his set and james holden is playing more tech-prog.

with sasha's new cd it is really breaky, but still holding prog into most of the sounds.

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all alone out on the street,
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when you hold me do you dream ..."

Old 18 Jun 2004, 4:18pm#3
goatboy
bling bling

This thread is soooooooo 2002... LOL


Prog on.

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Old 18 Jun 2004, 4:39pm#4
NTrance
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Perhaps Sasha is basing his assumption on sales of Airdrawndagger! Wink

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Old 18 Jun 2004, 5:11pm#5
heathy
Registered User

I thought the saying was 'Trance is dead'.Wink

Hear these statements every year in both prog and trance scenes. And every year they tend to get bigger everywhere in the world bar here. I feel like i'm living in Seinfeld's 'bizzarro world'.Smilie

Old 18 Jun 2004, 5:21pm#6
goatboy
bling bling
Quote:
Originally posted by NTrance
Perhaps Sasha is basing his assumption on sales of Airdrawndagger! Wink

Which actually sold quite well compared to other electronic music 'artist' albums.
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Old 18 Jun 2004, 6:14pm#7
hotdogpete
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There is some bloody good progressive which i like , and soon as i buy some i will be fusing it in with my techno journeys , the 2 will be amazing together done properly. I don't think progressive or techno will ever die . People said the same about heavy metal but there is still a huge underground scene that come out when something they like is put on . Its just the techno and progressive crowds don't consist of as many go hard pill heads that go out everyweek off their face .

What goes around comes around , it is the universal law of averages and applies to all things............

Old 18 Jun 2004, 6:19pm#8
zeus
Registered User
Re: Is Progresive Dead - Flame On
Quote:
Originally posted by john doe
http://www.inthemix.com.au/p/np/viewnews.php?id=15867

according to progressive "god" sasha

"I’m now actively distancing myself from that progressive sound that was previously attached to me, because it really doesn’t hold much interest for me anymore,"

That statement doesn't mean progressive is dead at all. The way it reads to me is that he is trying to take his sound in a different direction.

As for progressive being dead, it is far from it in the UK from what I have seen. After seeing the crowds progressive DJs like Steve Lawler and Hernan Cattaneo were pulling at the Homelands festival and with Fabric being wall to wall for a 6 hour Digweed set recently, I would say the progressive sound is still going strong.

House is more than just music.....it is a way of life

Old 19 Jun 2004, 3:44am#9
shr3dder
James Lover

there aren't too many big name prog guys playing straight up standard progressive house anymore anyway..


(if that makes sense Stoned )

Quote:
Originally posted by Brick
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Old 19 Jun 2004, 9:12am#10
BuzsteR
Chillster.

zeus : hate u forever tongue

i wanna live in the uk now cry

"together what i dream,
all alone out on the street,
baby we can leave the crud,
when you hold me do you dream ..."

Old 19 Jun 2004, 5:47pm#11
The Devil
Cammyxxoo & Chrysoula
Quote:
"I’m now actively distancing myself from that progressive sound that was previously attached to me, because it really doesn’t hold much interest for me anymore,"

Thats what happen when peoples tastes improves.LOL there very nature of progressive is to progress.

As for liveing in the uk, there is enough people of every type of music that even a dieing format could still give a pulse for years to come. Then, after a few years, when people have forgotten it and then refind it, it becomes the 'new black', take Elvis, he's stlye gets repeated every few years, if it was not for Junky xl some other fucker who if refound the tracks and given it a new spin for people who miss it in the past. With all the nations that make up what now lives in the uk i'm sure bollybeats are ranked far above most dance styles. The facts are less what's really happening and more of who you choose to belive the facts are coming from. If i told you to dance off a cliff, some may follow.

So is what a person is saying going to change what you play at home or on the dance floor? Pick you style, man the guns and defend what you want. Just make sure what your defending is worth it.

BETTER THE DEVIL YOU KNOW.

Old 22 Jun 2004, 4:39pm#12
FATAL DOSE
Registered User

hotdogpete there a lots and lots of pill heads in the prog scence, i used to play prog and let me tell you at least 70%of the crew were pill munchers!


i dont mind your idea of blending tekkas wit prog, done it a bit myself and the tekkas crew didnt even know

Old 22 Jun 2004, 10:08pm#13
hotdogpete
Registered User

i never said there was anything wrong with pills , its just the drum and bass scene and nrg etc , which is drawing big crowds , is full of little kids who go out hard everyweek . The techno and progressive crowds seem to be a bit older and the same people don't go out as much . Perhaps techno and progressive could unite for some parties , the styles are not too far apart.

What goes around comes around , it is the universal law of averages and applies to all things............

Old 22 Jun 2004, 10:33pm#14
shr3dder
James Lover
Quote:
Originally posted by hotdogpete
iPerhaps techno and progressive could unite for some parties , the styles are not too far apart.




yeah Fabric did that when Holden played here last october


im all for it happening again
Quote:
Originally posted by Brick
im into Trance, Hard house, DnB, Hardcore and other stuff of the like.
Old 22 Jun 2004, 10:47pm#15
Brick
itm's idiotic spanner
Quote:
Originally posted by shr3dder
yeah Fabric did that when Holden played here last october

im all for it happening again

yeah cause you'll be here and shit hey....
Old 22 Jun 2004, 10:57pm#16
Beekayz
Registered User
Quote:
Originally posted by hotdogpete
i never said there was anything wrong with pills , its just the drum and bass scene and nrg etc , which is drawing big crowds , is full of little kids who go out hard everyweek . The techno and progressive crowds seem to be a bit older and the same people don't go out as much . Perhaps techno and progressive could unite for some parties , the styles are not too far apart.

Perhaps a generalisation, but I have always regarded the Adelaide d & b crowd to be more into their green and beer than pills.

Perhaps also a generalisation but I've always considered the NRG scene to be filled with messy bastards who will take whatever anyone gives them Stick Out Tongue

The progressive scene is probably a little older, but pills still play a big part in it. I don't think it has enough in common with the techno scene for there to be a good enough reason to combine parties though.

Good to see your posts making a bit more sense though, hotdogpete! Smilie

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Old 22 Jun 2004, 11:04pm#17
Nodsta
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The dnb scene is hardly full of little kids who go out every week. In fact the reason dnb is so big at the moment is due to the fact the older crowd have stayed with the music as well as a lot of younger heads discovering it. It isnt a case of new faces relacing the old faces, more a case of adding to the existing crowd.

And altho pills are consumed you will find the dnb crowd is a drinking crowd. In fact, in terms of bar takes it beats all other genre's except for maybe hip hop. Hence the reason so many venues are keen to support it.

aka Hotdogpete

"Also loved both Noddy's and MPK's sets, didn't realise there was so much variety in DnB - can't wait for the next DnB nite now!" NTrance 2004

Old 22 Jun 2004, 11:43pm#18
goatboy
bling bling

I reckon us prog lads will give any other genre a run for your money knocking back asahi, jack daniels and vodkas!! (not all at once mind you)

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Old 22 Jun 2004, 11:49pm#19
Beekayz
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Quote:
Originally posted by goatboy
I reckon us prog lads will give any other genre a run for your money knocking back asahi, jack daniels and vodkas!!

And that's just Mr Roach! Wink

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Old 23 Jun 2004, 12:09am#20
LOCSmiley
The Judge
Quote:
Originally posted by Nodsta
. In fact, in terms of bar takes it beats all other genre's except for maybe hip hop. Hence the reason so many venues are keen to support it.

nah don;t think so noddy - i reckon the house crowds at places like the Kings head etc and would give them a big run for their money

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Old 23 Jun 2004, 1:25am#21
gumble
drunk again
Quote:
Originally posted by goatboy
I reckon us prog lads will give any other genre a run for your money knocking back asahi, jack daniels and vodkas!! (not all at once mind you)

presennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnt and ready cap'n mal! Stoned Stoned Stoned
Old 23 Jun 2004, 1:53am#22
TeK - Tycoon
technophile

yer i aGree with Beekz, not a great deal in common with the tekkaz scene. even tho mmm, i love techier and loopier prog (tho dont get me wrong, and i like proggy prog too :lolSmilie

but i like/ been hearin the electro infusion that the Carter Bros are playing laTely in town. An infusion, that at times sounds very "techy proggy" but on a more layered, whilste funky, metronomy base.

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Old 23 Jun 2004, 7:21am#23
Nodsta
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Quote:
Originally posted by LOCSmiley


nah don;t think so noddy - i reckon the house crowds at places like the Kings head etc and would give them a big run for their money

Isnt it just so damn handy that within 2 weeks the prog boys, dnb'ers, hard housers, hardcore crew and trance heads will all be standing near the same bar every Thursday night.

Is now the time to stop planning things for Fridays?

aka Hotdogpete

"Also loved both Noddy's and MPK's sets, didn't realise there was so much variety in DnB - can't wait for the next DnB nite now!" NTrance 2004

Old 23 Jun 2004, 7:38am#24
NTrance
ITM Contributor
Quote:
Originally posted by Nodsta


Isnt it just so damn handy that within 2 weeks the prog boys, dnb'ers, hard housers, hardcore crew and trance heads will all be standing near the same bar every Thursday night.

Just a shame its at heaven!
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Old 23 Jun 2004, 9:40am#25
Nodsta
Registered User
Quote:
Originally posted by NTrance


Just a shame its at heaven!

Best sound system in town by a mile.
Best lights & lasers in town by a mile.
Best venue in town by a mile.

Now it finally has the best music!

aka Hotdogpete

"Also loved both Noddy's and MPK's sets, didn't realise there was so much variety in DnB - can't wait for the next DnB nite now!" NTrance 2004

Old 23 Jun 2004, 10:24am#26
LOCSmiley
The Judge
Quote:
Originally posted by Nodsta


Isnt it just so damn handy that within 2 weeks the prog boys, dnb'ers, hard housers, hardcore crew and trance heads will all be standing near the same bar every Thursday night.

Is now the time to stop planning things for Fridays?

um, yes!Off Chops

This Week at The Cumby:

Friday - Fashion - the best in house Music with Brendon, K2, Lachy Pender, Didge and guests

Saturday - Das Haus - the sexiest haus music and breaks around with Dlux, Lachy Pender, Didge, Pab and guests

and then

Don't Forget also
It's my birthday and I'll cry if I want to - INFUSION & MATT DEEKAY @ Garage 17/9/04

Old 23 Jun 2004, 11:33am#27
Syk Syd
psychedelic trance~mitter
Quote:
Originally posted by Nodsta


Best sound system in town by a mile.
Best lights & lasers in town by a mile.
Best venue in town by a mile.

Now it finally has the best music!
i'd like to think this will do well, would be great to see some psy & techno there too, lets hope SURGERY is supported by true music enthusiasts & not ye old heaven crowd Wink

when i got home from the weekend, i flicked on the light n flicked on the television....no matter how hard i flicked i still couldnt get that boogie of my finger!

Old 23 Jun 2004, 12:22pm#28
NTrance
ITM Contributor
Quote:
Originally posted by Nodsta


Best sound system in town by a mile.
Best lights & lasers in town by a mile.
Best venue in town by a mile.

Now it finally has the best music!

... and worst crowd!
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Old 23 Jun 2004, 12:24pm#29
goatboy
bling bling
Quote:
Originally posted by Nodsta
Is now the time to stop planning things for Fridays?

Except for Fabric Fridays in which case... GO TO BOTH!!
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Old 23 Jun 2004, 1:08pm#30
subway rider
Registered User
Quote:
Originally posted by NTrance


... and worst crowd!

LOL LOL LOL
nice one ntecs!

shake yo money maker...

Old 23 Jun 2004, 1:17pm#31
Nodsta
Registered User
Quote:
Originally posted by NTrance


... and worst crowd!

I thought you didnt go there?

aka Hotdogpete

"Also loved both Noddy's and MPK's sets, didn't realise there was so much variety in DnB - can't wait for the next DnB nite now!" NTrance 2004

Old 23 Jun 2004, 1:21pm#32
Littlesim
emotions electric
Quote:
Originally posted by hotdogpete
Perhaps techno and progressive could unite for some parties , the styles are not too far apart.

Unite what you like but as for similar styles - Are you serious!!?

The needs of the many...outweigh the needs of the few.

Old 23 Jun 2004, 1:52pm#33
shr3dder
James Lover
Quote:
Originally posted by Littlesim


Unite what you like but as for similar styles - Are you serious!!?


they are quite similar imo, hence the reason alot of the big prog guys are starting to drop tech in there sets...

zabiela, holden even digweed
Quote:
Originally posted by Brick
im into Trance, Hard house, DnB, Hardcore and other stuff of the like.
Old 23 Jun 2004, 2:05pm#34
NTrance
ITM Contributor
Quote:
Originally posted by Nodsta


I thought you didnt go there?

I do sometimes ... when I want to get stabbed, shot at whilst queuing up to get in, have drinks spilt all over me, barged out the way and cigarette holes burnt in my clothes. Wink

If there is a DJ who I want to see, I will go ... but not very often.
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Old 23 Jun 2004, 2:14pm#35
Syk Syd
psychedelic trance~mitter
Quote:
Originally posted by Littlesim


Unite what you like but as for similar styles - Are you serious!!?

Chimera - in deep....a fine example of techy prog house...

when i got home from the weekend, i flicked on the light n flicked on the television....no matter how hard i flicked i still couldnt get that boogie of my finger!

Old 23 Jun 2004, 2:17pm#36
LOCSmiley
The Judge
Quote:
Originally posted by shr3dder



they are quite similar imo, hence the reason alot of the big prog guys are starting to drop tech in there sets...

zabiela, holden even digweed

similar is not the right word

complimentary is a better one i think

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and then

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Old 23 Jun 2004, 2:22pm#37
shr3dder
James Lover
Quote:
Originally posted by LOCSmiley


similar is not the right word

complimentary is a better one i think


Yer thats better Smilie
Quote:
Originally posted by Brick
im into Trance, Hard house, DnB, Hardcore and other stuff of the like.
Old 23 Jun 2004, 3:07pm#38
Nodsta
Registered User
Quote:
Originally posted by NTrance

I do sometimes ... when I want to get stabbed, shot at whilst queuing up to get in, have drinks spilt all over me, barged out the way and cigarette holes burnt in my clothes. Wink

And thats just from Chrysoula saying hello........

aka Hotdogpete

"Also loved both Noddy's and MPK's sets, didn't realise there was so much variety in DnB - can't wait for the next DnB nite now!" NTrance 2004

Old 23 Jun 2004, 3:33pm#39
goatboy
bling bling
Quote:
Originally posted by Syk Syd


Chimera - in deep....a fine example of techy prog house...

TUUUUUUUNE!!!!

And agreed, some techno and progressive is very complimentary.
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Old 23 Jun 2004, 5:10pm#40
JamRock
frEEkeR

the similarities are that tech and prog are both filled with underground sounds,

they generally range from funky to deep to pumping

and theres no cheese! and no cheesy crust either!

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