HMC @ Honkytonks - Sat June 26

The days of the Dirty House parties and HMC's sets crankin in front of heaps of people that were all into that music are gone. Get over it for fucks sake.

Personally I've only seen him play once or twice, but I own most of the tunes that he has produced, and love it all.

I'm sure if he had kept his involvement in the scene in adelaide going it would be a different story, but that's life. The only people that really know him today are the ones that were around to see him in his "hey day". How could anyone possibly expect it to work at a rave these days where 80% of the punters have only been in the scene for 2 or 3 years max. Melbourne and Sydney are of course a different story because they have the population and storng enough tech scenes to support it.

it would be be quite a laugh seeing any adelaide dj play after HMC
has rocked the dancefloor!!! a bit like the new years party when he played before the INTERNATIONAL dj gene farris !!! Cam had the whole dancefloor packed with a kickass set ( as usual) Gene farris came on and wiped out the floor in 15 minutes !! there were only about 50 idiots left on the floor . Lets see nodsta play after cam or Ntrance (if he even mixes ). I have never seen a dj hold the dancefloor after HMC has played .

Just because you play every week in a little club in adelaide means nothing . When you play the mayday festival or tour the world then you will have bragging rights.

And Ntrance if you haven't seen him play don't comment because you have no knowledge on the subject.

Just because you play every week in a little club in adelaide means nothing . When you play the mayday festival or tour the world then you will have bragging rights. HDP

then you come back to adelaide and you have a scene that seems obsessed with hardcore and drum and base and then to the mix you add a generous handfull of biker involvement
and I wonder why he does not play here that often?

Techno is not supported in Adelaide coz its SHIT
























now i don't really think that, just wanted to add some tension : )

Ive seen HMC clear many a dancefloor there hotdoglarry.

He isnt some amazing wizard that instantly makes people appear on every floor he performs in front of. He had his moment where he could do no wrong, but these moments dont last forever.

The scene today doesnt want to hear what he plays but you seem unable to accept this. Due to the skill and hard work of others sounds like drum&bass and nrg have taken over and DJs like Patch, Mr.S etc are the new HMCs.

You can stick in the past if you want. Im moving forward with the next generation.

The Beatles were good in their day as well!

Ive seen HMC clear many a dancefloor
there hotdoglarry.

He isnt some amazing wizard that instantly makes people appear on every floor he performs in front of. He had his moment where he could do no wrong, but these moments dont last forever. NODSTA



agreed
seen 10 of 5/10 sets

and 5 of 10/10 sets

thanks fo tha heads up sueno', hope tha party goes off, should be wild fun.



(...errr... has everybody EMBARRASSED them'selves enough in this thread yet??? all these clashing bad tastes trying to stir each other up... keep beatin off those ego's kids....your all living legends......!)

Drum and bass is a completely different style all together and NRG is just simple sounds for simple people ( mostly consisting of preset sounds on digital synths ).If fresh had a regular techno set people would eventually come around , its just they are uneducated . Everytime the is an international techno dj at a rave the dancefloor go off , maybe they went to dance to kevin energy but they sure as hell liked adam beyer etc etc . When every big club and magazine and radio station /adevertise nothing else how can something gain an audience ? The dance scene here is run by communists .

Nodsta/Ntrance its a bit stupid talking about someone in the past tense when are playing next month ??

Put any adelaide dj to the test -
book any adelaide dj for a 6hour set and see how many people show up .

Get cam to play a 6hour set and there will be a que .

I can assure you the only reason he ain't playing here is because he is sick of the scene and all the tossers that run it .

Originally posted by hotdogpete
Drum and bass is a completely different style all together and NRG is just simple sounds for simple people ( mostly consisting of preset sounds on digital synths ).If fresh had a regular techno set people would eventually come around , its just they are uneducated . Everytime the is an international techno dj at a rave the dancefloor go off , maybe they went to dance to kevin energy but they sure as hell liked adam beyer etc etc . When every big club and magazine and radio station /adevertise nothing else how can something gain an audience ? The dance scene here is run by communists .

Nodsta/Ntrance its a bit stupid talking about someone in the past tense when are playing next month ??

Put any adelaide dj to the test -
book any adelaide dj for a 6hour set and see how many people show up .

Get cam to play a 6hour set and there will be a que .

I can assure you the only reason he ain't playing here is because he is sick of the scene and all the tossers that run it .

LONG LIVE TECHNO !!!!

:P :P

Originally posted by hotdogpete


Nodsta/Ntrance its a bit stupid talking about someone in the past tense when are playing next month ??


but its not here so who gives a shit - in regards to adelaide its in the past

Techno in adelaide just needs the financial backing that all the other styles have enjoyed in recent years .

Again Loc another useless unintelligent waste of a post .

oh shit sorry dude - must be me and my unintelligent self

you want intelligence read a book, go to uni or ponder life

i have been to uni

i'm glad for you

read a book or ponder life then

Originally posted by johnsonpower
I have heard some cool dj's from adelaide, nothing over and above found any other city though.

Agreed.

Adelaide has some fantastic DJs but in my opinion no higher ratio than what I've heard in Melbourne or from any other state.

One of Melbourne's best is an Adelaide boy though - Agent 86. He's got some serious skills! 8-)

Nodsta: just out of curiosity, why do you think the standard of Adelaide's DJs is so much better? If they do 'blow the rest of Australia out of the water' there must be a reason why this is the case. Something in the water perhaps? ;)

too much fluoride

Originally posted by hotdogpete
I can assure you the only reason he ain't playing here is because he is sick of the scene and all the tossers that run it .

I guess that gives us two choices then:

Wait around with baited breath and hope and pray he changes his mind, or

Get on with life and enjoy listening to DJ's who do want to play the music they love.

Bit of a tricky decision this one ... :meh:

no matter how much techno is rammed into people they aint going to majicaly change the prefered listinig styles just because its in there face, maybe you techno people need to turn up to some other events and you may actually find that mr s and oddy and quantm and many more actually drop techno in there sets, maybe you guys need to make some more fuckn friends rather than bitch about how good or shit or why this tooser aint booked coz he play 12 decks for 24 hrs blind folded...............

Originally posted by NTrance


LOL!!! :lol: I could probably mix up some cake ingredients or even mix a drink now and then - as for DJing it holds the same appeal for me as a visit to the dentist.



Hey NTrance could you mix me up some blueberry muffins and a martini to go with it, cheers mate! :lol:


ORIGINALLY POSTED BY HDP, Techno in adelaide just needs the financial backing that all the other styles have enjoyed in recent years.

Hey HDP, im sure you have been told this before, in fact i think i once posted it explaining to you, get off YOUR ass and fund a techno night to show all us un-educated D&B / NRG heads that you have what it takes to turn the surely dying techno scene in adelaide.

If i remember correctly the techno arena at EF6 was fairly empty most of the night.

Maybe all those NRG heads that were cranking right next door to the techno arena could be wrong and totally un-educated like you mention.

However i don't think the how ever many people that were cranking along with myself in the NRG / System 6 arena could possibly as un-educated as u think.

HDP, your a FOOL! :tripping:

Originally posted by Nodsta


You gathered all this info on me from the one post.

Its like you've known me my whole life. All 15 years of it!!!! :lol:

such wit you crack yourself up each time I bet , no wonder CAM doesnt want to play out there no more:meh:

so, please answer the question on your statement about syney and melbourne DJ's (we cant mix) you didnt answer my question of where you have played in Sydney. An expert opinion like yours needs to have some foundation??

cmon?

I really dont undersatnd the attitude of this thread at all, I got on here praising HMC and all you guys want to do is slander him. FFS ?? !!!

Originally posted by hotdogpete

Put any adelaide dj to the test -
book any adelaide dj for a 6hour set and see how many people show up .

Get cam to play a 6hour set and there will be a que .

I can assure you the only reason he ain't playing here is because he is sick of the scene and all the tossers that run it .

werd, I wonder how mant releases NTrance and Nodsta have put out?
After about 4 trips to adelaide in recent times, I havnt bumped into attitude like this. But then again, I dont go to RAVES and maybee thats it.....
I have only ever met the nicest stoniest bunch of peeps with the easiest going attitude in the laide......till now:~(

Originally posted by johnsonpower




I really dont undersatnd the attitude of this thread at all, I got on here praising HMC and all you guys want to do is slander him. FFS ?? !!!

I didnt see anybody slandering him nobody doubts his past contributions, they were in fact questioning his relevance to todays scene.

Couldnt agree more respect your heritage but if you aint a part of the scene you are no longer relevant to it

Originally posted by johnsonpower


werd, I wonder how mant releases NTrance and Nodsta have put out?


Whilst I cannot speak for Nodsta, I am afraid my total releases amount to a big fat zero.

Disappointingly I cannot even claim to have released a few racing pigeons or had the cred to be released from a night in the cells.

All I have said throughout this thread is how good HMC is - based on what I have been told, in fact he was the main influence on Bold that is more than enough recommendation for me - I would not need any more convincing than that.

:tripping: I do not think anyone has said a bad word about HMC, questioned his ability, influence or any other trait ... just that he is no longer interested in playing now - and fair play to him for that! We all get pissed off with things along the way!

Im happy to state that my release count equals zero, something Im perfectly happy with. I have chosen to contribute to dance music in a number of other ways, something I have had great success with.

Altho, some people may disagree with me and at the risk of sounding big headed, I believe I have done as much, if not more for dance music in Adelaide than HMC has. Definately in the last 8 years or more so I feel Im entitled to my opinion.

Nobody doubts HMC's talent and what he has done in the past but in terms of the scene today he has absolutely no relevence whatsoever. I'll cherish the memories I have of him but I wont be as sad as some and try and hold on to that period forever, especially when there is stuff going on throughout the scene now which is as important as anything he ever did for it.

And most of these people have the general scene and its well being in mind, not just their own agendas.

Originally posted by Nodsta
Im happy to state that my release count equals zero, something Im perfectly happy with. I have chosen to contribute to dance music in a number of other ways, something I have had great success with.

Altho, some people may disagree with me and at the risk of sounding big headed, I believe I have done as much, if not more for dance music in Adelaide than HMC has. Definately in the last 8 years or more so I feel Im entitled to my opinion.

Nobody doubts HMC's talent and what he has done in the past but in terms of the scene today he has absolutely no relevence whatsoever. I'll cherish the memories I have of him but I wont be as sad as some and try and hold on to that period forever, especially when there is stuff going on throughout the scene now which is as important as anything he ever did for it.

And most of these people have the general scene and its well being in mind, not just their own agendas.

you mentioned the word "scene" at least three times in your post, maybe Cam doesnt want to be in the "scene". Maybe he was in it for the music, and was loosing the feeling because people started thinking too much about this scene. Its not a comp you know, and a person who has been in this as long as you (and I )have got to give more credit to somebody who has put Australia on the map for techno. He is a techno hero man, he can play how and whenever he wants and he's earnt at least that.

Cant you just play records whenever you want , especially when you are as amazing mixer as Cam. Why not? you guys were acting like he had no right and was yesterdays news. Go on read back, here is a great example--

.The scene today doesnt want to hear what he plays but you seem unable to accept this. Due to the skill and hard work of others sounds like drum&bass and nrg have taken over and DJs like Patch, Mr.S etc are the new HMCs.

Dont loose sight of why you got into electronic music in the first place, to me it seems as though you are having some issues with this "scene" you keep talking about. You are sounding pretty serious dude.
And btw, I am from sydney and have no "agenda" here. I am not any way connected to Cams gig in melbourne either.

good luck with the scene mate.

ps-- agent 86 rocks also...bigtime skeels

Originally posted by johnsonpower


Cant you just play records whenever you want , especially when you are as amazing mixer as Cam. Why not? you guys were acting like he had no right and was yesterdays news. Go on read back, here is a great example--

.The scene today doesnt want to hear what he plays but you seem unable to accept this. Due to the skill and hard work of others sounds like drum&bass and nrg have taken over and DJs like Patch, Mr.S etc are the new HMCs.



don't think it has nything to do with the right - more the fact that techno is struggling in this city - the scene (which is a word that i take to mean the dance music industry in a particular place as a collective whole - so its use is fine) is domianted by nrg and d&b at the moment - fact, thats all there is to it. Kids don;t like minimal tech these days on mass in adelaide they like hoovers and 8/8 high hats - so when it comes down to the bottom line - what r u gonna do?

If you don't house train a puppy it will always piss inside .
If people are only exposed to limited amounts of music through the media thats all they will like . I will give adelaide another year or 2 and if things don't change i am moving to melbourne and you guys can keep your cheese .

Originally posted by hotdogpete
If you don't house train a puppy it will always piss inside .
If people are only exposed to limited amounts of music through the media thats all they will like . I will give adelaide another year or 2 and if things don't change i am moving to melbourne and you guys can keep your cheese .

do you seriously beleive that as soon as everyone hears techno they will all become techno fans and go to techno events?

Originally posted by johnsonpower


werd, I wonder etc etc ......

After about 4 trips to adelaide in recent times, I havnt bumped into attitude like this. But then again, I dont go to RAVES and maybee thats it.....
I have only ever met the nicest stoniest bunch of peeps with the easiest going attitude in the laide......till now:~(

dont worry dude, hopdog and knobsta are the least listened to peeps on here, most of the time what they say goes in one ear and out the other, believe u me.- and the impression u got of them is not unlike the impression alot of us gathered when they first started posting as well. knobsta is right about some things but transends to as if hes right about everything, hopdog?... well...much of a muchness, adelaide ravers are cool, you were right about that tho
cheers dude, run amok
:)

of course i don't but if it has a regular spot on fresh and maybe the occasional mix up on one of the other radio stations then it obviously would attract more punters .

deleted a limerick i had here, paying out on hopdog, it wasnt needed


ps i can see where Ntech is comin from too, and ya can tell by his posts that he wasnt baggen HMC, just maybe didnt realise the reaction he'd get for just stating his position which was legit from his standpoint and how i read it. if ya know alan ya know he's not an internet troll.

gee thanks tek-racoon , your off the christmas card list !!!

Originally posted by hotdogpete
If you don't house train a puppy it will always piss inside .
If people are only exposed to limited amounts of music through the media thats all they will like . I will give adelaide another year or 2 and if things don't change i am moving to melbourne and you guys can keep your cheese .

But thats what Ive been trying to say. The only person with the talent & the profile to save techno here was HMC. If he was such a good thing for the Aussie & Adelaide techno scene, where is he when it needs his help more than ever.

You cant expect the promoters and DJs who hate techno, but love d&b/nrg you save the music for you. Dont blame the people who pushed the sounds they love for techno's demise, blame the people who supposadly love techno so much but arent prepared to do what it takes to revive it.

I mean, you say you love it, but what have you EVER done apart from bitch & moan to try and get it back? If you love HMC so much and act as if you know him, why dont you do a show and convince him to play?

If you were at Velvet on Saturday nite HDP you would have heard some really interesting electro/techno by the MTC and an absolutely fuckin' crankin' set by Devious - I really couldn't care less whether they are cool or cheesy - both were wicked to dance to.

I go out to have a good time, and dance my arse off to DJ's who love to play techno, much as I did in Melbourne a few weeks ago with the Advent, Ben Cromack, MTC and the Bovine crew and I have been to Melbourne to see Tech acts 7 times in the last 2 years - personally I could not give a shit whether the DJ's/acts I like are the best technically I just want to go and dance to great tunes.

It is only DJ's or wanna be DJ's who pass judgement on others - the rest of us just go out to have a fun time!

Ntrance make the trip to melbourne to see him play you won't regret it thats all i have to say , trust what ya mate bold has said .