Variety the spice of life or Too much going on it's gonna die in the arse??

OK looking at everything that is on over the Easter long weekend do you guys think that Yes it is great for the Adelaide punters to have such a vast variety of events to attend over the weekend or that there is too much on too many internationals in town and that it will be a disadvantage rather than blessing to all the promoters putting on events???


Your thoughts people..

really i think the only things suffering will be the fair punter's pocket's!

well im planning on going to see tidy trax @ st pauls
thats all i care about atm.

Joel mebbe I see you there then...

TAN and that one for me too

you bored chrys? lol


variety is the spice of life i guess... but the thing is.. people only have so much money that they can spend and if there is a complete saturation of the market then someone has to lose out!

i was going to start a thread about the state of dance music in SA and where it's future lies...

we have two hugely popular genres here in SA... those obviously being Drum & Bass and Hard Dance.

since i wasn't privvy to most things dance music related pre-98 i would like to know whether they've always been big... but in different guises or has the promotion of them been more obvious for people to access?

when i first started going out techno and trance were the thing.. now they're on the backburners so where have all the people who USED to like techno/trance gone and why?

Odyssey and Kontrol are working together for the party on Good Friday.. is that not working together? They have always done parties against each other in the past..

now there's peace and harmony!

well the choice is killin me so im goin to sydney on easter saturday to avoid missin some acts hahahaha

geez, im even being spoilt for taste with interstate parties.. i just read bout this cracker in melbourne on good friday, decisions decisions


The Freestylers
Dexter
Aquasky vs Masterblaster
Uberzone (LIVE)
Bad Company
Shapeshifer
Off Cuts



well still got freestylers & aquasky vs masterblaster like sydney

BUT UBERZONE, BAD COMPANY AND DEXTER TOO

means i'd have to miss Moguai & Planet Funk

argh

I dont really know what to say.

Basically me & Daniel basically put on events with the music that we wanted to hear and at the time no other promoter was catering for it. I guess fortunately for us we had either great promotion skills, a stubborn attitude or people who felt the same way as us as the styles we have always pushed have managed to take off.

That said, when we started Adelaide was basically a house & techno city and we had to fight our way in to get the music we loved heard.

I think a lot of it stems down to the fact that a lot of industry type people are only in the scene for what THEY can get out of it. We always had a different attitide that the SCENE & MUSIC was more important than individuals therefore we always did what we thought was best for the music we loved, not what was best for us.

From comments Ive read on this board over the last few months this is the EXACT opposite to how a lot the techno's scenes main players feel. Maybe that is why one scene has spiralled down whilst the other has gone from strength to strength.

Going back to the original question I love the fact that there are multiple events on one night. It forces the organisers to make sure their event is of a high quality, otherwise they will lose out on the night. A healthy scene is one where the punters have a choice of what to do, rather than having it dictated to them. If somebody puts on bad events or shows that dont appeal to punters then they wont be around for long and as a result the scene will get stronger.

I was pretty late into the dance scene, have no idea of the early days in Adelaide, but it seems most people sort of get into it via Trance. From there you discover other styles until you find the sounds that you like the most.

Sad as it is that Techno is not supported in Adelaide I don't really mind as I would much rather be in a packed room in Melbourne for a big event than being amongst a handful of the faithful in Adelaide with the promoters losing money on the night.

I am just glad that Paul and Devo have bought as many top international Techno DJs/producers over as they have! Thanks guys.

ok kinda related to the topic now that we are talking about the scene and i understand that there must have been/ still is rivalry amoungst some promoters... But not all of us have been around the scene for ever and would find it interesting to find out how the promoters got into the scene and stuff up until current day.. maybe a bit of a history lesson and a bit about themselves would be cool and stuff.....

Please feel free to post and let us know what youve done, how the scene has changed since you've been involved ect..

I'll get things started....

I got into promoting when some raving friends of mine (MPK, Maestro D, Ben PFG, Paul Hamon & myself) decided to put on a party as we felt that the parties that were happening could have been done better.

We formed Instantaneous Productions and put on Inquest at the Gaol and we were hooked.

I wont list all the parties we did but the highlights were Jigsaw, We are The Future, Excalibur, Fruit of the gods (Adelaide first outdoor country rave), Universal and more. We also started one of Adelaide's all time legendary clubs Discovery.

The others moved on to different things so we closed that buisiness and me & MPK started Ultraworld. I wont even begin to list the shows we did as there are close to 100 but during this time we were able to introduce happy hard, jungle, gabba and early hard house to the Adelaide scene. Some people have never forgiven us for this! lol

We also started Chemistry at Heaven (well we took over on the 3rd week) and turned it into Australia's best club night. At one point we were regularly pulling 1500 heads every Thursday playing underground rave music!!!!

I began to lose the promoting bug and in 1999ish gave Daniel the rights to Ultraworld to start my design business. I also started Guidance magazine which altho only consisting of 6 issues I feel it really helped raise the profile of the rave scene. It was viable but bad debtors forced me to throw it in before it sent me broke. I then moved on to be the editor of Go mag which also did quite well. The best thing about both these mags is it helped force Onion to pull its finger out as it really was quite crap at this time.

Not long after this I was offered the chance to promote again at the Tivoli and Rush was born. Im sure most people remember this as it wasnt that long ago and its still considered one of the all time great clubs by the ravers of Adelaide. Together with System 6 I feel this helped push hard house to the position it is today.

Nowadays I have my graphic design business doing most of the flyers for the club and rave scene in Adelaide.

There ya go.... thats a starter for you.

Altho I must say, 13 years in this industry has driven me mad so forgive me if I come across as a little jaded. Starnge thing is, I still love going out as much as I ever did.

Thanks Noddy.. Now other promoters and industry icons.. get a posting and follow noddys example...

Post your info industry sorts...

You're just a young' un mate, got years left in you yet!

Not bored... quite the history lesson..

Oliver Lieb for Enchanted Oddy??


It's good to see where the people who are making our scene have come from...


Here's a question...

What was going on around Adelaide scene wise to make you want to do a party? Were there many big ones happening at the time?

When me & MPK started there were big parties happening (not that often mind you) but they were more house music based than anything.

We wanted raves god dammit so thats what we did!