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Yeah, Yeah heard it before, people complaining about the price of a ticket.I understand that its the end of the year, but don't waste my time about not having enough money (boring)Carl Cox wil rock no doubt, but really Dj Damage, Dj Josh and adelaides number one RnB dj souli as support for coxie is just a joke.Im not slandering any of these guys but there should be more techno support in that line up.Like Dj bold,Jorge watts,laura p,carter bros,Ben watt,loki,phorm,devious or fenetik or amoeba on the live tip.I'm sick of seeing these main stream djs playing at events that they have no interest in the actual style that is supposed to be presenting the night.E.g Carl cox< and last week at karma Electro clash with djs Atb Brenden and josh comon a rave club supporting a 80's\new wave night now thats a joke.And not to mention Waxworks at hindmarsh stadium,what a show that was. And that was only $50.00 CHEAP.Adelaide stop complaining u hav it easy....Techno forever....[COLOR=green]

Bold is in Europe so he cant play...

All that aside, Adelaide does have it easy. Yes, they should stop complaining. Yes, "promoters" should do something. So should punters... They should stop moaning when someone actually tries to put a show on or maybe put on a better one themselves.

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Originally posted by Mayday
Bold is in Europe so he cant play...

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Originally posted by deepbox
Yeah, Yeah heard it before, people complaining about the price of a ticket.I understand that its the end of the year, but don't waste my time about not having enough money (boring)Carl Cox wil rock no doubt, but really Dj Damage, Dj Josh and adelaides number one RnB dj souli as support for coxie is just a joke.Im not slandering any of these guys but there should be more techno support in that line up.Like Dj bold,Jorge watts,laura p,carter bros,Ben watt,loki,phorm,devious or fenetik or amoeba on the live tip.I'm sick of seeing these main stream djs playing at events that they have no interest in the actual style that is supposed to be presenting the night.E.g Carl cox< and last week at karma Electro clash with djs Atb Brenden and josh comon a rave club supporting a 80's\new wave night now thats a joke.And not to mention Waxworks at hindmarsh stadium,what a show that was. And that was only $50.00 CHEAP.Adelaide stop complaining u hav it easy....Techno forever....[COLOR=green]

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Last edited by amoeba on 04-Dec-03 at 03:31pm

well at least brendon is playin

he can play anything well

This reminds me of when Sasha was here last...

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Originally posted by Psyentist


Yeah but Jorge, Laura, Devo etc... aren't

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The jaded one has a point there. As it would be a Thursday night with Chemistry they have to cater for their existing crowd and put their residents on. Overhauling the line-up just for one night to please the purists would just be stupid but I see your point though, one or two known techno djs playing on a more commercial slant would be good.

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Originally posted by goatboy
The jaded one has a point there. As it would be a Thursday night with Chemistry they have to cater for their existing crowd and put their residents on. Overhauling the line-up just for one night to please the purists would just be stupid but I see your point though, one or two known techno djs playing on a more commercial slant would be good.

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Jeff mills@heaven they had both bold and cycloid....that worked

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just like u should've been before sasha mal

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Jeff mills@heaven they had both bold and cycloid....that worked

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Originally posted by goatboy


Thanks Cass



I'm pretty sure that was put on by Tony from 618/Centrals or someone like that not Heaven themselves although I may be wrong...

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I suspect most of the crowd who go to Heaven next Thursday night will not like Carl Cox either.

I think it is time that Jorge Watts got out his girly house tunes and Lawsa stated playing cheesy trance

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Originally posted by DJ Quantum
Jeff mills@heaven they had both bold and cycloid....that worked

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Originally posted by john doe


bundi show.... real good one too

this techno blah blah is really gettin' thrashed on this forum....

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For atmosphere Wind Up has the best vibe of any of the regular club nites I have been to in Adelaide ... but you cannot make people like Techno if they don't dig the tunes

And you cant expect clubs like Heaven to put techno Djs on main stage just to make 20 people happy.

Noddy, you have some points, but at the same time you're a twit! It is a thursday night at heaven, so technically, yes, it's chemistry. But at $45, that'll sort the usual cheesy crowd from ones who would actually like coxy... Now, to promote a certain style of music, you generally bring in a mainstream DJ, and play locals around him that play the same. I cannot see the point in having the usual chemistry cheese played before and after Carl. If people payed to hear Carl, they want to hear techno. If they hear techno all night, and think to themselves afterwards "that music was shit, where was the chemistry music?", then they should go to a normal chemistry on another thursday, and not waste their money going to hear a style they don't like...

And that bigger variety of people that Carl Cox pulls, wouldn't even know he was playing techno in the first place...

And you've said previously that you never say anything negative about techno...? I'm referring to your 20 people remark... dickhead!

err think about it ... you thik heaven is here to promote techno ?

no ! they are here to pack there club with one of the worlds biggest dj's as it will pull numbers .. !

if you think this has anything at all to do with techno and the techno scene in Adelaide your sadly mistaken .. its simply about $

And I dont think ANY of Adelaide's techno DJ's could hold a chem crowd .. plain and simple !

them's the facts !

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Originally posted by sixer
its simply about $
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noddy and sixer speak the truth and we all know it.


it ain't about being "true" to the sound.. heaven wouldn't give a toss about the purists, cos for every one of them that wouldn't go cos the "true techno djs aren't playing" i can guarantee you that there would be 20 people saying "ooo carl cox is playing"

it's all about the $$$$ and it makes good business sense to do an event like this. heaven can't just give their residents the arse for the night to let djs that don't support heaven (or go there frequently) play just so they can please the core supporters.

we can all remember the hoo-haa when sasha came to town and we looked upon jayse to do the warm-up set of progressive house (something i've NEVER heard him play)... i for one was cringing until i heard him on the night and i think he did a reasonably good job playing what he did.

it's a sad, harsh reality but at least they are giving the people of adelaide a chance to see one of the worlds biggest names without us having to spend even bigger $ to go interstate

techno needs to grow at grass roots level again which it is doing slowly but surely (wait til after enchanted!!!), but if people don't know what the sound is... what better way to promote it than have a big international appealling to the masses.

guys, you've got an excellent oppurtunity to utilise this as a promotional exploit for your techno nights (prolly stating the blatant obvious)... are you going to do a mass flyer drop around heaven (carpark etc) advertising wind up etc?

i'll reserve judgement about the warm up djs as ya just never know what music they have laying at home (that never gets a chance to get played anywhere else)

bugger it, i'll go get a ticket now cos an oppurtunity like this doesn't happen that often and lets face it... carl is getting on in age so who knows how many more years it'll be before he hangs up the headphones (he may even consider a career in acting! )

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Originally posted by MrToastE
I cannot see the point in having the usual chemistry cheese played before and after Carl. If people payed to hear Carl, they want to hear techno.

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If they hear techno all night, and think to themselves afterwards "that music was shit, where was the chemistry music?", then they should go to a normal chemistry on another thursday, and not waste their money going to hear a style they don't like...

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And you've said previously that you never say anything negative about techno...? I'm referring to your 20 people remark... dickhead!

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i'd class him as house/hard house and he doesn't rock my boat anymore

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Originally posted by Charlotte
i'd class him as house/hard house and he doesn't rock my boat anymore

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yeah what noddy said!

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Originally posted by Nodsta


That is so far from being true it barely warrants a response. The majority of the people who go to see Carl Cox go to see the biggest & best DJ in the world play. They dont care or even know what music he is playing, they just want to witness the legend for themselves. Also, a lot of the crowd will also be old ravers who have seen him every time and make a habit of catching one of their idols.



And people wonder why techno is so fucked in this town when people have an attitude like this? Firstly you have basically stated here that you dont want different people exposed to techno. If they dont like it, they shouldnt bother coming? How the fuck is this supposed to expose the sound to new ears? Wouldnt the techno scene rather have an act like Carl play an event full of non techno heads so he can use his skills to convert them to the sound? A Heaven head will listen to Carl Cox play techno simply because of his reputation. They wouldnt last one song if it was a regular Adelaide jock playing the same.

Also, Carl Cox considers what he plays as house, not techno and has asked that he is supported by house DJs for this gig.



Where did I say that? hahahaha Ive said more negative things about techno than anyone else on here. I'll stand by my 20 people remark in this case as well.

What some of you techno people need to realise, is there is a much bigger picture out there than your own closed minded beliefs and music loves. If you want your scene to ever get to the stage where an act like Carl COx could play a pure techno event then you have to make some changes, and accept that new faces are required. When the highlight of your scene is 80 people looking miserable at a Wind Up, then why would any club bother making techno a priority at a gig costing them $50,000?

Use your brains for a change and your scene might have a chance!

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come on kiddies take a deep breath.

i don;t want to have to get my whacking stick out...or do i?

aztekkid :: you obviously have the passion for your music, which is good... but thing is... techno IS big around the world (hence the high profile tech djs tending to cost alot) but not in adelaide.

why?

seriously, why isn't techno as big as it should be? it USED to be so what happened? when was this cycloid gig?


if places like heaven didn't throw the $ around could the current techno promoters do it by themselves? i strongly doubt it so then your scene doesn't get "commercial" exposure opening the door to people who have never heard it... it's a viscious circle that will take alot of hard work and $ to get going but it'll get there. techno will never die, but it needs to get exposed more than once/twice a month to 360 people (out of a population of 1,000,000)

take mistress barbara for example (as it was the last techno dj i saw here)... rated by alot of people by very poor turnout. damn shame cos i enjoyed what she was playing.

i think techno will flourish over the next few years again, and enchanted alone will do more for it exposure wise than carl cox but its going to take time.

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Originally posted by Charlotte
i'd class him as house/hard house and he doesn't rock my boat anymore

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Last edited by amoeba on 05-Dec-03 at 01:39pm

I actually wonder how many people know of Carl Cox, and don't have a fucking clue what he plays.
I know of at least 8 right now, but they're going to see him because he's Carl Cox.

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Originally posted by azteckid




You a fukn twat noddy, I had alot more respect for you than that but after that last paragraph ur more of a jaded fool than I thought... I couldnt give a stuff about your scene, why do you care so much about ours? Carl Cox plays tracks made by several artists that call this shit hole of a town home! Sorry some of the biggest dj's in the world don't play yours. I'm sorry that this town cant even think out of its own wak lil gay train of thought and cant even think a lil bit more than the garbage that you feed your punters! Its a pity that Jorge & Bold have to go overseas where they are really appreciated by much bigger crowds. Carl Cox plays the biggest techno events in the world all over the globe and I state rarely with cheesy wak ass dj's! So who's really behind the eight ball us or you?

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Originally posted by Logik
when was this cycloid gig?

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I mean, as a shit house scene all you tech heads do is complain about the lack of acts that pass thru this town, and then when you get an act you complain about the lack of locals. Any help you guys get should be embraced but instead you choose to further cement the end of the techno movement in Adelaide.

What a pathetic bunch of whingers. [/B][/QUOTE]



thats a very omniscent statement...i must say. And you are helping your or any other scene scene by what..posting comments like this ? your comming off as the arse now buddy.
you are what my father calls a OXYGEN THEIF.
....and oh yeah....you shouldnt use the WORD CUTTING EDGE, to say your sets are CUTTING EDGE is very egotistical on your own behalf because believe me, they are far from it. Some may think otherwise, but thats why they come to hear you and i and a hell of alot of others DONT.
dont judge the sheep by the numbers. ...........just because you get heads means SHIT as far as i and others are concerned.

what a pathetic winger.

ah yes, just reread what azteckid wrote initially...

agreed, as good as cycloid are... they would never have pulled that sort of crowd without jeff "the freak" mills headlining.

mrslanted :: but without those "heads" the scene won't flourish surely you'd have to concede that point?!

playing to your friends isn't going to help the scene on a whole as it won't get exposed enough to GET to that popular stage?!


techno supporters seem frustrated and i can understand why cos people in general are fairly naive when it comes to checking out new sounds etc....

what IS cutting edge anyways?

can you paddle my ass please loc?

c'mon guys... we're all big boys now so surely we can debate something without getting personal?

deep breath........argggghhh

popular stage?!

never been a concern of mine
but i do understand where you are comming from.
a SCENE is a group of people with an idea and usually a PRODUCT no matter if its 5 people or 5000.
"Cutting edge" is defined to each individual ear i guess.
so cutting edge to me isnt so to others. but we all still get the right to say who is and who isnt.

time for a cup of tea. i have heartburn now.

wow gotta post here

i think you a fukn dread locked butt apple noddy

come closer smell my breath

"sucks my balls"

i guess i mean popular as in being able to tour your favourite djs so you can share their sounds with everyone, seeing as though the idea of the initial post was a slate against the bigger clubs for touring those you would class your own, if you catch my drift


for me cutting edge leans towards technology rather than the "sounds" as there's alot of older music that can still hold its own these days.. it doesn't have to be about always playing the freshest cuts just cos they're new (although the music industry thrives off the whole new tune addictiveness!)

hovvh8er keep your posts constructive dude - no more shit like that