Have people deserted this forum?

Hear that?

Well?

Its the sound of tumbleweeds passing by..

Quiet around these parts.

Is the adelaide scene that dead

or have people just moved to different forums?

Just because people don't post here doesn't mean that the adelaide scene is dead. Everyone has just moved to facebook imo. But when you look at the views/replies figures for each thread, it suggests that a lot of people just come here to read and either don't have an account or don't bother to log in.

So all you lurkers out there, start bloody posting!

its never been super busy in the adelaide forum has it? forums seemed to have slowed again now all the cool kids only internet from their smart phones.

Yeah ITM in Adelaide was never really busy. But the FB revolution certainly has slowed it down even more. From my experince the web forums have only ever covered a very small part of the clubbing community. And even less coverage in the age of the mega super crazy huge festivals.

ITM in the Eastern States is the main/only internet forum used by the clubbing community.

In SA we also have Adelaide Massive (drumnbass/hiphop/dubstep), Adelaide Clubber (focus on hard dance but still cover everything), Trance Adelaide (trance obviously) etc so lots of options for people looking to chat

My opinion (and its only an opinion) is the adelaide forums are very clicky and don't welcome newcomers with open arms. Newbie comments can often be met with ridicule.

its never been super busy in the adelaide forum has it?

yeah it used to be ages ago. remember the trance v mnml thread? that was like 20 pages long, and a good laugh

i like how the same 10 people post here every week, its comforting, however it would be good if you 10 could add some point of interest for once...

but Adelaide is dead musically speaking.. anything exciting packed up years ago and sought refuge elsewhere, Hobart and Canberra have a more lively scene than us here, here it likes routine, hates change, it likes being stubborn and it likes defeating you!

apart from the trends amongst the 'nova' generation there is nothing forward thinking about this town, all the underground places are centered on pushing music from the times gone by! that's nice for a while, but doesn't support a healthy or developing scene... and it seems to be welcomed in those parts you have to pedal or push drugs, sell tickets to things people aren't really interested, it is concerning when all the reputable dj's in a city are pushing 40 or 50 years of age and are all one trick ponies, despite there desperate attempts to reinvent themselves..

fortunately there is a whole lot more here than just that!

My opinion (and its only an opinion) is the adelaide forums are very clicky and don't welcome newcomers with open arms. Newbie comments can often be met with ridicule.

too many techno snobs :whyioughtta:

for the last 2 years this forum has been crying out for a state admin or mod with some drive. someone with the energy to promote the site and move things forward...it's as simple as that. there's been no effort to remedy the situation even though plenty of users have requested it. as a consequence, many of the promoters have left and event threads have dwindled.

unfortunately it's been left to decay for so long that i'm not sure it can actually recover.

i'm not sure why i care, i'm just a 40 year old one trick pony, pushing ye ol' sounds of yesteryear :)

wheres my zimmer-frame...

Well we don't have anyone as a State Promo Coordinator so that certainly doesnt help.

Also our one and only moderator is a sad, jaded mofo who is hardly ever on here and doesnt seem very interested in or supportive of anything at all really, apart from Aussie rules football. (as per below)

i like how the same 10 people post here every week, its comforting, however it would be good if you 10 could add some point of interest for once...

but Adelaide is dead musically speaking.. anything exciting packed up years ago and sought refuge elsewhere, Hobart and Canberra have a more lively scene than us here, here it likes routine, hates change, it likes being stubborn and it likes defeating you!

apart from the trends amongst the 'nova' generation there is nothing forward thinking about this town, all the underground places are centered on pushing music from the times gone by! that's nice for a while, but doesn't support a healthy or developing scene... and it seems to be welcomed in those parts you have to pedal or push drugs, sell tickets to things people aren't really interested, it is concerning when all the reputable dj's in a city are pushing 40 or 50 years of age and are all one trick ponies, despite there desperate attempts to reinvent themselves..

fortunately there is a whole lot more here than just that!

Al_Mac c'mon mate you're all glass is half empty! That's no way to live ;)

adelaide has a greater presence on bluelight than it has on ITM

all the underground places are centered on pushing music from the times gone by! that's nice for a while, but doesn't support a healthy or developing scene

underground scene is doing just fine. lots of artists making new electronic music in all genres. and as for pushing older music, nothing wrong with that! most of it sounds fresher than a lot of the crap that comes out today

im not jaded im a realist.. and reality is you all talk about harmony and cohesion but the first opportunity you get you stab each other in the back the first chance you get to further yourselves!

im here everyday Matt and nothing changes.. I stopped posting is all!!

the problem with the underground scene is the underground scene... the name in its self lends to commercialism these days, and i think using it to describe anything in essence misses the point!

yeah it used to be ages ago. remember the trance v mnml thread? that was like 20 pages long, and a good laugh


i remember seeing it, but dont remember checking it out since i dont like trance

:lol:

to be fair, itm adelaide is now in a better state than adelaide clubber these days... days between posts, spam posts get left there for ages...

i didnt really get much of the cliquey-ness when i joined up to itm. im not the most active poster but i was never made to feel unwelcome. i think if someone makes an effort and does more than just post in the 'hi i am a newb' introduction thread it wouldnt take long for the handful of regular crew to take them on board.

there are loads of people in all genres doing their thing cheese free throughout this city. not all of it is to my taste, but hats off to them for attempting to bring their passion to others. i always enjoy myself every time i do manage to venture out, cant remember the last time i had a bad night out.

by the way im bored and baiting you!

by the way im bored and baiting you!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_w_bza2cj7x0/St_O6GQyunI/AAAAAAAAAvM/n2N8x0G2Xm4/s320/backpedal.jpg

i blame the hipsters and their fixies ......fkn hipsters!

Adelaide scene isnt dead, but i agree, the adelaide forum has stagnated.
Its this time of the year as well, people dont venture out as much because its cold and rainy, it gets dark early... the social aspect of the night life is somewhat negated during the winter months... people would rather be at home, where its warm and comfortable.

Like i said, i dont think the scene is dead in any sense, all the events i've been to (basically EVER), have always been of an incredibly high calibre.
We are VERY fortunate in this city to have a deep understanding and appreciation for fantastic music.
I do think the city could do with a bit more diversity, but this topic has been done to death, and you know what, hats off to those who are creating events where people can go to enjoy themselves.
Better than those who sit there and cry about how the scene is dead and do nothing...

p.s Al mac, re the older generation: if you are talking about who i think you are, i am disappointed... respect where respect is due...

There are still some great nights playing superb electronic music to healthy numbers. Seek & you shall find! :thumb:

Promoter need to start advertising their shows (not just the underground nights) on here again to generate discussion. Then we could also use some more event reviewer post-party. I'd be happy to stick my hand up and do a few reviews. I fail English but happy to help.

There are still some great nights playing superb electronic music to healthy numbers. Seek & you shall find! :thumb:

Totally!!!

I'm more excited about music in Adelaide than I have been for ages. There are older guys playing cutting edge new music, as well as young DJs who are digging deep - it's not all CDJs and flipped up hats!

I fail English

thats unpossible!

promoters pretty much just post up a facebook event and thats that these days. rarely see any flyers any more.

yeah.. more promotion is needed, I would also like to see some more diversive acts/artists aswell... some of the more upfront names as opposed to the tried and tested acts that come to town semi regulalry, it annoys me somewhat that people get excited about only these sorts of acts when so many more quality names come to our shores but bypass adelaide!

I was in a shitty mood yesterday and totally felt like a provocative rant, smorchika i'd like to say i wasnt directing the 40-50 year old quote at any one individual, it was more just an observation ive had over the last 2 years.. which i dont necessarily mean malice by, more that i would like to see something new from them more often! I have nothing but full respect for these local institutions, but sometimes i feel looking from the outside in at least, they are trying to hard not to loose touch with the music and it may actually push them further a field than if they werent trying to keep up?
I was probably hoping for it to spark some debate aswell... yes there are a number of quality nights going on round town, and trav you do need to know where to look, but it would be nice to see some of these step outside the bounds from time to time and not just doing the same things over and over, i can personally say a whole night of deep house, or soulful or jackin house will sit with me for about 1 hour max then i need to hear something else or move on to the next place, where as you can head to any number of places inter state or overseas in clubs half the size as what we got here and hear multiple djs or artists doing there thing over 2 or 3 rooms with different vibes in each!! Adelaide is unique, it is a whole heap of fun but i still think the scene isnt as healthy as what you all profess it to be, thats my opinion, like it or lump it!

Totally!!!
it's not all CDJs!
*cough
Not that there's anything wrong with that!

thats unpossible!

promoters pretty much just post up a facebook event and thats that these days. rarely see any flyers any more.

we still do flyers for our shows but its generally just the rundle st/record shop drop...good excuse to pop in to town, dig for some records and have a couple of beers!

I generally do business card sized flyers for most shows. Easy to distribute personally and they fit in someones pocket!

I generally do business card sized flyers for most shows. Easy to distribute personally and they fit in someones pocket!

and make a grand old mess of your pockets if you run them through the wash!

...Then we could also use some more event reviewer post-party. I'd be happy to stick my hand up and do a few reviews. I fail English but happy to help....
a dedicated state coordinator would be doing this already and that's whats been missing here for the last couple of years...some one dedicated to that role. someone willing to organise a photographer for an event or a reviewer. someone talking to the promoters etc etc. what makes a forum like Adelaide Massive successful is the effort Khem does to promote discussion

i've had meetings here at SAE with people from ITM in the past and i've offered to post up ITM marketing material and posters here, basically just get behind them, yet even though that material was promised it never arrived. i realise that's just a tiny gesture but they all add up

i've seen guys like jamrock put his hand up for this role in the past only for the position to be handed to someone else who then proceeds to do nothing. perhaps jamrock hadn't flicked his cap upwards correctly in the interview or just wasn't hipster enough? how the interviewer wasn't bedazzled with his infectous smile i'll never know!

actually if i was onion magazine i'd be looking at starting a forum and doing it properly...they have the content and the right people...

^^ Interesting comment about 0nion. Yes it would be good but the last thing we need is another forum and more fragmentation. A coordinator is what is needed! you used to be able to drop in to ITM on a weekday see all of the photos from the events the weekend prior and some reviews of some of the events too. But that all dried up around the time Dan left as state coordinator.

In the age of social media there is no reason why this should not be feed by the people who are out and about, after all thats what this forum is for anyway. Everyone likes to watch in this forum most are too afraid to feed the trolls and don't post at all.
It makes it really hard to promote and event when the trhead has 99% comments from the promoter and no discussion. Printing flyers/ posters / cards is really a hit miss form of marketing at the best of times. At least with a forum or FB you can direct your marketing to a specific market. However I do believe that there is a place for print promotions and I still use it.

Al i like your idea of running venues where each room has a different feel with the same DJ's floating around however in practice it could be a nightmare without the right people doing it.

But all in all we are getting back to the same conversation about the market changing and the clubs not really getting behing it. I have the good fortune to be involved with a venue at the moment that is open to these ideas hence the recent deal we have made with soundpond. Its only a small venue with no bikie backing so we can't reinvent the wheel but we are out there doing the best we can.

Its the people in the scene who make the scence, not the scene that makes the people.

i dont think matt got the job last time cos his boobies were to small... the last couple of people who have been charged with the role have tried and failed in the role because they arent directly in the scene or have no actual knowledge of the demographic that utilise ITM or mix in with that said demographic.. its not their fault entirely though, I agree social media streams have killed the forum as an entity! but ITM HQ are a business at the end of the day and if there is nothing to be generated by having business here then why fund it?? ITM's presence everywhere has dropped significantly not just in SA, but like you mention Wol, they are full of empty promises and unfulfilled enthusiasm...

Matt probably would do a great job in the coordinator role, but it would be a horrible thing to take on! however someone of his ilk is required with an actual marketing background... I think generating more traffic to the Adelaide forum with links to photo galleries and poignant articulate forums debates might get the ball rolling but for it to work here and be sustainable as the premier source of scene related information it has to become that first... and essentially that has to come from its community!

how the interviewer wasn't bedazzled with his infectous smile i'll never know!

Phone interview only unfortunately :corey:

But that all dried up around the time Dan left as state coordinator.
Dan was a really hard working state coordinator, i reckon he did a pretty decent job

Serious question, when is the last time you saw a Facebook link to anything on ITM??
For me, I honestly can't remember.....

Personally though Facebook can never replace a good old forum, as you don't need need to keep checking it all the time. You can check in at your convenience and all the posts and threads are sitting there.

So why is the forum dying, I dunno, maybe no-one talking about anything interesting?

Serious question, when is the last time you saw a Facebook link to anything on ITM??
For me, I honestly can't remember.....

Do youy 'like' the inthemix fan page on facebook? https://www.facebook.com/#!/inthemix

They post links to new articles every time they go up (usually several times per day at least). These links go to the national news items etc. For a while there was a FB group or page for ITMSA but that hasnt been used for a while I think

So why is the forum dying, I dunno, maybe no-one talking about anything interesting?

Except us, because we are all super rad :)
Go go itm, think its time the forum was revitalised, more events/punters/discussion/variety...

Unless...
Is the electronic music scene dead?! Are people less enamored of it now?
Its been around a while, maybe people are bored with/of it?
Such a tough one.

I have not been out in a fucking long time.... i reckon everyone gets too pissed and goes home to crash at 4-5am. Fuck, Sunday morning just started getting interesting at that time 5+ years ago...
It seems you just don't get that any more. Where the fuck is there to go? Where's all the regular type of crowd that used to peak at those hours, and look forward to the scene? That's right, sitting at the cas at 5am in the morning iced up playing pokies.

every man woman and their dog does not give a fuck about the scene. they all know that their favourite poofter with a pair of cdj's is going to be playing on the main stage at the next future or parklife

Where the fuck is there to go? Where's all the regular type of crowd that used to peak at those hours, and look forward to the scene?

the only option is to kick on back at someone's house. that when the real fun starts

Actually ITM Adelaide used to be incredibly popular around 2002 to 2003. Everyone would talk about everything from Trance, Hard Dance, DNB, tech and everything in between. Adelaide Massive was around for strictly broken beats and then Raveadelaide came along and killed ITM at around the same time that the ITM mods said that we couldn't have 'general' style threads and they had to be all about music/events. RA eventually died in 2008/2009 and Adelaideclubber tried to take over but by then Facebook was well and truly established.