Down with the American war machine!!! - Forums

Hello , i would like to propose a paradigm shift in the music industry in the hope it will help force America to withdraw from Iraq and end there world totalitarian onslaught .

I believe one person is all it takes to effect great changes world wide . We all sit back and watch the global greed machine steal oil . destroy nations , and send in there own contractors such as halliburton to rebuild and profits pour into Dick Cheneys and mates pockets .

They can be brought down through simply methods . Americas entertainment industry is the life-line noone has yet attacked .

I propose a worldwide ban on America Dj's , producers , movies and all .

1) noone books their djs till they pull out of iraq and free david hicks. How can their djs expect us to dance to their beats formed on spilt blood of the innocent .

2) do not buy american records or cds , don't feed their greed machine , their producers need to vote for the right leaders.

3) do not hire videos or watch american movies . This is americas greatest export and their propaganda backbone. Take it down and they will beg us for forgiveness .

4) boycot Mc donalds and all american fast food outlets. Buy from aussie food outlets you may wait 5 minutes longer but the food is fresher and better for you .

Together the people have the power to force any change they like , may a new paradigm shift towards world peece and sustainability begin !!!

Couldnt agree more about boycotting american products but unfortunately boycotting the entertainment industry is just not that simple.

When you watch tv, your making whatever channel and show your watching rich. If you use windows, your making microsoft rich. If you use the internet and go to any american site at all, and see banners, your making the american based website owner rich. When you buy newspapers and magazines, your often making someone like rupert murdoch rich, who these days is an american citizen, not an aussie. It is largely impossible to prevent all money you spend from going to american inerests, as the country has too many fingers in too many pies... its surprising how many companys you think of as australian are actually american owned or partly american owned by american shareholders. Its a good idea to boycott, but its also pretty much impossible unless you throughly research everything, including names of shareholders, which is information that may be hard to obtain.

I reckon America owns the air too so I suggest you stop consuming that.

DOWN WITH TEH MAN!!!

yeah, i'm down with the american war machine for sure.

rage against the machine

ah, another HDP rant... what inspired you to say this now rather than 3, 4 or 5 years ago? i agree that US colonialism is unethical and immoral, but i think that attempting to boycott everything american is way too difficult. especially when you're in the states.

p.s. HDP, if you're interested in learning more about how much a select group of the US corporate and government elite are shafting other nations (and their own) in order to line their pockets, you should read "the exception to the rulers" by amy goodman. it's a disturbing, yet extremely interesting book, right up your alley i reckon.

so if you study something your an expert in it, even if its opinion based?

I am quite happy wearing nikes and listening to US hip-hop thanks all the same

surely you gest hdp? maybe some of those winking smileys are needed, so we understand your sarcasm...

goodwork raising those big issues tho hey...

it's a pity you voted LIBERAL.

HDP, the best you can do is not vote for Johnny later this year.

Tore my guts out to demonstrate with so many people against the Iraq war and then seen the little maggot get back into oriface after mentioning mortgages...is anyone really stupid enough to thiink JH controls interests rates?? Lots I guess.


Vote im out...use your energy to inform the public on all the lying he does...Baby o'board, interest rates, Hicks, ID cards, christ the list goes on. But American boycott, dude think a little ala posts above.

right on Bloody_N.
education, health, housing affordibility.. the list go's on. the aging population scared of this terrorist invasion hey, vote for johnny he's making us safer and doing a great job with our internationl reputation. would be funny, if it wasn't for the fact that libs are screwing the worker and the small man so hard. good grief see this century worth of industrial relation laws, GONE. no, no, of course you young/old unskilled, uneducated workers are going to be able to sit down and 'negotiate' with the boss! HA HA BLOODY HA! it was hard enough not getting screwed when we had any rights.
..and we pay these pricks to screw us.
check how much tax you pay in a year people, then compare that to the amount of public services your using. not the privatised ones! you may be looking hard to find them.

but thats cool, just keep the blinkers on, keep clockin those time cards, we're all employed by that big company and the current ceo likes us to work harder, longer and to pay more for it.

ah but our 'economy' is just booming! it's about the greater good guys. yep cheers, pass a slice of the cake this way when ya done mate.

truely sorry bout the compressed rant, but a good forum like this only pops up occasionally.

i will support underground American musicians and labels,
that don't do it for the $$$ or the bitches.

you telling me what to do/should do is imperialist talk
that i will not be party to.

the absurd thing from my perspective is that the USA is considered such an economic strength, despite the hundreds billions of $US their national debt has exceeded. it's seems like keeping the world intimidated by its aggressive muscle-flexing is all that's holding them up. if the world bank and IMF had bigger balls, the US economy would have collapsed long ago... not unlike the fall of Rome, or any other expansionistic imperial civilisation. the end will come one way or another, and things there are detined to change as the blacks and hispanics grow to eclipse the honky population in the next 20 or so years. I recall reading that General Motors (Holden) were over 60 billion $US in debt last year. the only reason they weren't shut down is that if the IMF & World bank intervened and forecloesed them, they wouldn't get enough of their loan back from selling all their assets to cover the windfall! it is better for them to keep skimming off the interest that the corporation struggles to pay. I wonder how long our plant down here is going to last...

oh, and to X... I'm anti-Nike for their third world labour abuse more-so than just being American. We're in Iraq too, and I'd like to see our support statistics as a population if it went to referendum. If only there'd been a referendum BEFORE we got involved. now everyone else is out, and we're still in! It's disgraceful. The leadership of any country (especially the Bush administration) doesn't represent the sentiments of all of its citizens... that's nothing new. we know GWB stole the leadership in both elections, and still relies on smoke and mirrors to keep the simpler voters dazed and confused (Fox networkm, anyone? USA Today?). The evangelicals are waking up to it now since there hasn't been the promised return for their support, and rest assured, GWB won't be at the helm for long, and more importantly neither will his party.

Coming back to threads (clothes, not forums), it's remarkably difficult to find a major clothing manufacturer with a clean reputation (okay, particularly in the States). While swooshes and live-in child labour go hand in hand, nike and it's competitors can go f*ck themselves. Op shops and fair-trade/no-sweat products are an infinitely better alternative. think about the starving kid who made your nice white kicks next time you slip 'em on, X. the profit margins that fatten the wallets of their executive tear and shareholder bodies are disgusting. there's nothing cool and underground about that... it's supporting a culture of exploitation, pln and simple. The maker and buyer are both being exploited for the benefit of the already wealthy. it's truly disturbing when you step back and look at it from where I stand.

of course, boycotting these products hurts developing countries too... and most of these exploited workers are grateful for their 20c at the end of a 16 hour day (this is a statistic from a Chinese toy manufacturer's pay sheets). the best thing to do here is educate the developing world, and encourage them to unionise, and demand that beautiful Australian blessing (recently compromised) 'a fair go' when it comes to worker's rights. The way it stands, the transport costs per item greatly exceed the wage paid to the human being who makes the article with rare exceptions. that's nothing compared to the profict margin/mark-up that wholesalers and retails slap down. It simply ain't fair.

If you're going to stop buying American, do it in order to find local product (or at least sweat shop free/fair trade products) and strengthen our own cultural identity... not as simply a knee-jerk reaction against a nation which just has a bunch of capitalist warmongers at the reigns. American citizens are waking up (those who were only half asleep at least) and I'm confident that things are about to take a turn for the better. Well, come next year's US election at least.